83" at the first fret , . Dec 18, 2014. Keep thinning it down untill your happy with the thickness. Dale Member. Completely normal. Vibrato bridges. This was an extra $110 for the ebony and squared fretboard. Be careful to file the metal only, stopping just as the file comes in contact with the finish. Nut: 6061 Aluminum (0. Builder: Valenti Basses. 375, at 24th fret is 2. 720". Some of the necks I see have a fretboard overhang, some don't. Widthwise, the neck is 56mm at the zero fret and about 67. trock. . Guitars: electric, acoustic; accessories; and other musical instruments. the reason gibson style guitars have neck angle is because the birdge is higher, and since the bridge saddles are higher than the nut, the note made by the frist fret and the 13th fret would be different, basically the action would be higher towards the high end of the neck, and the action would be lower towards the nut. Usacustomguitars. The pickguard certainly looks homemade. Seems the radius in the Fender pickguard was a little smaller than the control plate. Your example doesn't look well-crafted, but I don't know if that's typical for Epiphone. 25in) solid. It really is a stunning piece of work - the pics don't. 1) I based it around a Jazzmaster neck pocket position, but with the Jaguar's neck pickup positioned relative to the end of the fretboard-overhang on a 22-fret neck, so the whole body sits about a half-inch 'lower' than the FCS interpretation. I'm not sure what is typical for Reverend guitars, but I don't think it is "abnormal" or something to be concerned about. Fender neck pocket deminsions 3" x 2 3/16" x 5/8" deep. James Collins Guest. I gave this one 22. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. 736The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. Feb 27, 2014 #25 monty said: Thanks Rick but a quick question. Then a tortoise shell pickguard, stamped metal bridge saddles, new pots, new cap, new 5 way switch and new jack plug. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. The overhang doesnt bother me visually, and its nice to have a couple more frets. number of strings = 4. See both screenshots that have the yellow highlights pointing at the areas. 090 thick. Medium Jumbo Wide (6150)On a 50's 175 this distance was around 9/16", while vintage Guilds and Epi archtops are closer to 1/2" or slightly less. Should I try to duplicate this, or is it OK to just keep the neck solid all the way to the neck pocket? If I need to keep the overhang, does anyone know what the. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersThey just add more frets on the top making the fretboard longer (though the distance from the bridge to the nut remains the same) - the spacing between the frets remains the same for a given scale length - that's why they have warnings about those 24 fret necks - they overhang the body considerably, and often run into trouble, running out. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Do Pick Guards Affect Sound?Fretboard Radius: The fretboard radius is the curvature of the fingerboard. Personally I wish I had gotten the 20 fret fretboard for my otherwise SUPERB Warmoth P-bass (with J-neck). Specs: Model: A2. I. Post Oct 04, 2020 #125 2020-10-05T03:52. I, however, would much rather have you looking at my new development. Special upgrades include a Badass II bridge, Greasebucket master tone, graphite-reinforced neck, and a '70s headstock logo. Tape the two pages together. The Warmoth neck on my Frankenstein J Bass has an overhanging fingerboard providing an extra fret. Empty any old water out of the iron and add fresh water. This reduces the height of the gap between the top of the body and the bottom of the fretboard where it overhangs at the 22nd fret. 10. 750- this gives room for a bit less than 1/8″ underneath the fretboard overhang for a pick guard. Warmoth explained that this is "part of the design specification for those that use a pickguard". Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangPosted by u/wies5 - 4 votes and 3 commentsEpiphone Les Pauls are popular with players at all levels, from beginners to budget-conscious pros—and with good reason. All Forums - Member Builds - Tech AreaIt doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc. 75" Scale conversion neck but I can't find anything about the size of the fretboard overhang, which could be an issue for me. The Warmoth neck on my Frankenstein J Bass has an overhanging fingerboard providing an extra fret. It features a maple fretboard with abalone dots, bone nut, and high gloss headstock. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home There are no sharp fret ends, and the volume and tone knobs have a smooth, noise-free—if somewhat limited—taper throughout their ranges. What I need help with is the nut and bridge measurements. Perhaps I am unique but I consider easy access to electronics on my Strat a necessity. Rosewood has a warmer, darker tone. The only neck I have here to measure is 1-1/16 thick at the butt end to the top of the fretboard crown. I. Use the info above to assist you in choosing the correct parts. Here is a picture of a warmoth conversion neck. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. 5-3mm . Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. The Jazz is narrower than the Precision. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Hi there Just received an LPS carved top body and Warmoth neck and have a query about the fit. I would leave it, its not uncommon to have a overhang, also cutting 0. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 625" on the body, and standard Fender neck heel height is is . The fretboard overhang is lower than it should, ideally, be, but the heel joint is absolutely rock solid and has not moved at all since I've had it: it should remain so for a long time to come! To optimise the action and playability I added a new Hofner-style adjustable bridge and lowered it to give an action of 3. New media New comments Search media. Hey @JACK G Merry Christmas! Yes, my SE serial CA has 22 frets and no skunk stripe. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 2. Will this work on a standard p bass body. At the age of 69, and with self-isolation a reality, I decided to fulfill a long-cherished dream and build a 1965-era Strat. If you'd like a fretboard overhang, we'll have to do a headstock adjust rod. Joined Nov 19, 2009 Messages 5,670 Points 38. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. 375, at 24th fret is 2. 5 scale, but shorter 24. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. If you can envision a Warmoth neck with the overhang containing an extra fret, Then think about what is happening. 25in) solid. Set e’ saddle distance 3/8” – 7. If I account for fretboard overhang and pickup rings how far sh. About This Listing. 125" (3. My fretboard overhang (space between first/last string and the edge of the fretboard) is 0. 81" at the first fret , . I agree with @BeeTL above that you'll probably get a natural 23 frets in that space, and you can do a slight fretboard overhang to give you your 24th fret. . There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. Back when Floyd Rose designed the system we all know and have a love/hate relationship with, there were no such things as locking tuners or Graphtech nuts. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. They simply move the bridge position on the body. Actually, any 24" Mustang neck will work with the Warmoth 7/8 body. Jun 13, 2020 #18 Slot and drill/install fret markers Radius sand taper (sometimes I taper first)The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. Normally it means removing the fretboard first, but in my case the neck was already loose, so I did not have to. Also, PRS in general is not. I ran into a snag with the control plate. If the neck thickness or the rout is different, you may have to make some adjustment to them. I was trying to model it after my RG550 neck that has an overhang for the upper frets. Fretboard overhang is when a fretboard design goes over the body slightly so the neck joint can be closer to the neck, it is typically used on guitar bodies that were originally designed for 22 frets. 175 mm). Buy On Amazon. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. Fretboard overhang doesn't mean the bridge is placed differently on the body. Reactions: cip 123. pretty certain that they meant just a neck pocket wifth shim to have a standard neck fit. Straight Fretboard End. Reactions: chrissh. Actually never thought of the fact I was holding a guitar, it disappeared from my thoughts and I was immersed in the playing. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. It has evidence of smoke damage, and repairs include: Neck reset (was set low on bass side), Replaced bridge plate, two spruce patches each on treble and bass side of X brace, 3 cleats to rear of sound hole, long rectangular patch underneath fretboard overhang, 5 repaired top cracks from bridge to back, two repaired top cracks on either side of. Last edited: Jul 16, 2012. Jul 16, 2012 #14 hammer40 said:From the pictures in your other thread and the pdf, it looks to me as if maybe you are missing the fretboard overhang. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. Business, Economics, and Finance. The fretboard overhang is very lazy bass building IMO. If the neck thickness or the rout is different, you may have to make some adjustment to them. Eyeball the neck to check for warping. If the neck is 21 frets, with no overhang (assuming that the neck ends at fret 21) it will be 17. 25,683. String width at the nut looks to be about 5" (127mm) String width at bridge looks to be about 180mm (7. Dec 18, 2014. If you are doing anything but a traditional neck pup check your fretboard for clearance when you determine how much past the neck it can be. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Staten Island NYC. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. The overhang does not affect playability in any way. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…Having to remove the neck to get the scratchplate off is a bloody nuisance Why can't they just make the neck as long as the fretboard?B. IMO a 24 fret extension on a 4 string would be a waste of $$$$. I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. Tape the paper to the fretboard. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. Hard to find in this condition. NO overhang 4. White dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Dec 25, 2015 #5. What's new. Somewhere, Wonderful. Photo 4. Most 22-fret Fender necks have the 22nd fret on an overhang. This guitar will be a surprise gift for a friend with a lot of personal meaning. Would the fretboard overhang cause issues? Last edited: Jan 7, 2021. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. There are four input modes for overhang. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. Paul Gilbert. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. Modifications/Repairs: previous neck reset, top patch near bridge, top crack repair treble side next to fretboard overhang. Jan 14, 2012 #7. Having that much room between the neck pocket and the. For the math-impaired: 1. #1. fingerboard with 22 frets, smooth and high density. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. May 18, 2016. org Regular. Learn More. Forgot your password? Sign UpThey do 22 fret models with a fretboard overhang, so they’ll work in a standard Fender neck pocket. 21 inch Fretboard. 75'' (thats a good thickness for a neck heel), and the. Rear Natural Clear body. It's the yellow one. My question conerns the position of the pickguard. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. There are four input modes for overhang. M. 608. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. Only problem is the neck sits too low in the pocket, not as in terms of the action, but the other way, so the fret board is push right up against the top pick. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. It is unusual compared to other Cole's Eclipse examples I can see on the net in that it has a fretboard overhang from the 18th fret to the 22nd. The fretboard overhang is the portion of the fretboard external of the strings: the measure from the external string to the edge of the fretboard. The difference between a flat fretboard and one with contour. Remember me Not recommended on shared computers. What this means is that for most OEM necks the bottom of the heel to underneath the fretboard is 3/4″ or . . 0″ thick neck. Just got this 2nd hand omen 7, was a bargain, but is it normal for there to be a gap between the fretboard and body? Or have i been had? ReplyThat overhang of the the rosewood to allow for a 22nd fret also allows enough space for the pickguard to slide under it. If you took a Tele neck and glued a piece of fretboard to the end with an additional fret on it, it wouldn't change the relationship between the nut, the 12th fret and the bridge. If you run into that pickguard issue in the future, you can also trim the underside of the fretboard overhang. Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. There are also numerous distinctions between the guitars, including their scale length, pocket depth, and neck width. Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. Joined Oct 25, 2008 Messages 5,211 Reaction score 1,736. 125 I guess my main issue lies with the string spacing at the nut and bridge. Jan 7, 2021 #2 cfreddy813 TDPRI Member. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. Will. And that slight overhang might be a great visual feature, too. Let the side of the fretboard overhang the edge just a little bit. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Dual action truss rod adjustment at the headstock &10mm peg holes for modern tuners. It didn’t take much to fix it. This is my first real project, I made an early RG type body (non-AANJ), modeled after my RG750. . RichThis is a question that has been baffling me about my next strat design. Sand the entire length of the fretboard with the same motions, making sure to keep your radius even across the length of the frets. EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. Back in the day of 21 fret necks there was no overhang. The former offers possibilities, the latter does not. Trying my best to make something usable. Switching from a 20 to 21 fret neck usually requires no modification to the bass. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. 625" fretboard thickness is 6. . 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. In my opinion, the Jazz is also a better sounding and better looking bass as well. There's that little 1/8" nick outside of where the neck pocket should be. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. - Possible fretboard overhang interference. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . One consideration might be the position of the neck pickup, which would usually be centred on the node 1/4 of the way up the string -. Like i said most Ebay cheapos that i saw had Fender shaped headstocks and don't come with tuners and none had the fretboard overhang. You first need to unglue the upper part of the fretboard that hangs out onto the soundboard by the soundhole. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersBusiness, Economics, and Finance. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. If we routed a 1. There are four input modes for overhang. The pickguard would hold the heel at an angle in the pocket. I use a flat iron and a towel to keep excess heat from the soundboard. When your frets span multiple pages, you will need to tape them together before you cut the slots. It’s not easy and cheap, but it can be done with a starting price of $300. From what I know there are 21 and 22 fret Strat necks. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. Now just run the whole jig past your flush trim bit. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. CryptoIf its a standard Strat pickguard, then yeah there will be issues. Warmoth 10-16” compound radius. Lots of different heel dimensions, fretboard overhang and fret count will affect the intonation since your bridge mounts are predrilled. Paddle Guitar Neck 24fret 30inch Rosewood Fretboard Long Scale. I'm not sure if Warmoth still offers this option. By far the most common pickguard thicknesses are either . When the neck and body are assembled, there is a small space between then end of the fretboard (the last fret near the body). GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX TeslaMetallic black, awesome condition, rosewood fretboard. Electronics. It's designed for those who are going without a pickguard and don't want a visible gap under the fretboard overhang. . I want to replace it with a Warmoth P-style neck. On the router table, use a flush trim router bit with a ball bearing to remove the excess fretboard material. That's the purpose of the overhang, so any 21 or 22 fret neck with the overhang will fit any body without having to change the neck pocket or bridge placement. I'm not sure what's going on with the overhang but I did place the centerline of the fretboard on the centerline of the guitar at the heel block and the center of the truss rod. 83" at the first fret , . Just unboxed a DIY kit and test fitted the neck. After I mark and drill the pickguard mounting holes and mount it, I notice the pickguard is slightly overhanging the neck pocket. I've also already done a trussrod slot with. However, if you want to use a 24. It's going to be a 22 fret neck w/ a 25. Tweedledee. My monoprice tele is my current number one. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. The joint edges on my Gibson guitars look much like on your ES-175. 83" at the first fret , . 5 radius fretboard approx . 0″ (or 8/8″) – 3/8″ = 5/8″. Media. If they do, then the Pro probably just has a shorter fretboard. With the overhang and the pickguard, it will be invisible. Jun 2, 2023. 2: that seems like a lot to me as well, but I don't have enough experience with. . Mildew Jones. 2. 83" at the first fret , . Make template of pocket, scribe to bottom of neck -keeping in mind range where the scale length works w/saddle adjustments. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. Equal: Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). 75" neck, you MUST use the Warmoth. I work out the fretboard dimensions using those plus 3mm either side for string overhang. The large file stays over the finish and doesn't damage it at all, but takes the fret ends down nicely. File the frets back. Avoid spot heating in just one place. Medium Jumbo Wide (6150)Solidbody Guitar and Bass Chat; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . First of all. As I am. 14. 5 radius Rosewood fretboard approx . 11-20-2010, 05:02 PM. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . You've read the diagram correctly. • Fretboard overhang = 0. Compatibility Issues. . I really dig his playing. Mar 24, 2011. NO overhang 4. 56mm) heel width, fits standard Strat, Stratocaster This neck is sanded and ready for finishing. 080 gap between the pickguard and the underside of the fretboard overhang. shift the neck to the treble side until the spacing between the outer strings and the fretboard edge are equal. It didn’t take much to fix it. . On the Tele installation was very easy. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. What a wonderfull collection of guitars you guys have in here!!! All new in the DIY guitarworld and I am having a bit of trouble. You may have to do this a number of times. . A G&L neck fills the entire neck pocket. 5 scale. My 2004 50th anniversary strat has a gap between the end of the neck abs the pick guard. I use my large three-corner file (also called a cant saw file). I noticed in pictures, the 2019 players neck has the fretboard overhang at the heel. jazz Bass 74. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. Quilted maple top. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. . The Baritone Scale Conversion Neck employs an undercut heel design in order to fit these neck pockets. Many times it’s necessary to change slightly the angle of a bolt-on neck in order to “bring the fretboard closer to the strings” (or lower the string hight). 2-1/4" (squared) heel, 3/16" fretboard overhang, 1" from heel bottom to fretboard. It's just *barely* too tight, so the action is *slightly* affected. Bought a tele neck copy from eBay, China, 25. Most conversion necks are in fact 24. 22 polished and jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. This body is routed for a G&L neck. 736Okay, It dawned on me last night that Matt Sharp (Weezer, the Rentals, solo) is probably my biggest influence. I ask because to thought necks with the extra frets had a fretboard overhang and this neck doesn’t Feb 18, 2022 #5. Rounded heel design with fretboard overhang so it will fit on either a. Details are below so I don't bore you now. Fretboard Radius 10" - 16" Compound Number of Frets 22 Inlay Shape Standard Dots Inlay Material Black Side Dots Black Side Dots Mounting Holes Standard 4-Bolt Neck Heel Shape Strat® Shape. 175 mm). FretFind. The neck has been reset to ensure. prorecordingworkshop. I guess you could also deepen the neck pocket area of the pickguard to remove the part that would fit under the extension if you really wanted to. I got nothing else. Instead of 1/32" gap, it's 3/32". It fits into Strats and Jazzmasters and converts the scale to a Gibson scale. There are very few necks like that. 2. A fret leveling file is also good for this job; I just happen to prefer the finer cut of. On a Dlx 5 string,. I'm guessing that, the fretboard overhangs a bit? Here's a photo from a Stu-Mac kit. If the neck isn’t fitted correctly, the guitar won’t be able to play. Messages 10,311. So the bridge will have to move further away from the neck to maintain the scale length, by half the distance of fret 21 to fret 22. Here's an thread where someone made their own body for a Musikraft neck. It almost has to be pointed out to be noticed. 5 radius rosewood fretboard approx . The fretboard overhang must rest above the body so the pickgaurd can fit underneath it. Please check the Warmoth website to ensure this neck will for your neck pocket. 75". I've been wanting to do this for the last several months but haven't been able to find a good 5 string candidate with a slim neck. The body is a mighty mite and has a deeper than standard neck pocket. You may want to do this in small increments to avoid going too thin right off the bat. As a result, the fretboard will slightly overhang the sides of the neck heel in the upper fret areas. 83" at the first fret , . This neck fits most Tele® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. The only problem I'd anticipate about cutting it would be to cut into the truss rod. If you took a Tele neck and glued a piece of fretboard to the end with an additional fret on it, it wouldn't change the relationship between the nut, the 12th fret and the bridge. 070-. #4. How about supplying some references to support this premise. We combine modern technology with classical techniques to produce state of the art instruments. Perfectly set up for those Jeff Beck style flutters. 118Squier P bass neck join Does the fret board go over the pick guard? Or is the pick guard fitted around it? Anyone have an answer to this? Really appreciate some shared knowledge. Business, Economics, and Finance. I have seen where a notch has been cut out for the spoke in. in my experience, the diff between heel or headstock adjustments is cosmetic/preference. Should work ok. It doesn't look like Warmoth/Allparts/etc.